National Chaplaincy in Schools Program
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Additional $42.8 million added to the $165 million already committed to push disguised Christianity in Australian public schools.
My blog post on the issue:
http://godless.biz/2009/12/02/national-chaplaincy-in-schools-program/
http://www.stopthenscp.org/
Government page promoting the program.
http://www.deewr.gov.au/schooling/nationalschoolchaplaincyprogram/Pages/home.aspx
SMH related article, which also mentions funding for the upcoming atheist conference in Melbourne (see you all there):
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/believers-45m-atheists-nil-20091127-jw77.html
The Greens reaction to this funding (not that I am a greenie):
http://www.johnkaye.org.au/campaigns/education/chaplaincy-program-study-flawed-and-biased-conclusions-not-justified
A PDF from these wankers about how great they're doing evangelising to teenagers:
http://www.socialsurvey.com.au/chaplaincyeffectiveness
Chapter 5 of our Constitution, containing Section 116 which states:
"The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth"
http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/chapter5.htm
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Again, you keep harping on about fairness, when it is clear the current system is not.
The current program will automatically grant the contract to the religious group over every other. While you argue with the straw man, I will be over here demanding equality for ALL groups.
I work on the assumption that it is appropriate for governments to subcontract some of the services it is pledged to deliver. I assume that the government will have in place rules governing this process to ensure fairness and accountability. I further assume the government would outline its expectations for this sub contract and that this would include adherence to secular values. I also assume..
When all of this was satisfied I would feel safe awarding the contract to gays, lesbians, atheists, communist, buddhists, christians, etc.
There is no need to discriminate based on any of the above if you have put in place the appropriate secular safeguards.
If the State denies someone of religion or no religion a chance to do the job at that....
Quit flying the persecution flag and understand I am agreeing with you. These rules should be in place, but are completely lacking. The Government is not acting secular in relation to this program and is violating the rules of the land they are meant to uphold.
If your government is seriously pushing one faith over all faiths then your country is no where near as democratic, mulitcultural, progressive as I once thought.
I had no idea that Australia is a virtual theocracy. On the other hand I only have your word on this and you are by any counts a prejudiced witness
"Chaplaincy" is an inherently religious office. Regardless of not being an actual law, Federal government is expressly prohibited by rhe constitution from promoting religions.
It is a blatant violation of the constitution, both in letter and in spirit.
The constitution guarantees very few things (which is why we need an enforcable bill of rights), but prohibiting the federal government from endorsing religion is one of them.
What matter here is that religious groups get automatic advantage over others who may be more qualified. This is against the letter, if not spirit, of the Constitution.
I agree thought that the elected should not promote things that the electors don't want them to.
It does not matter what the community, schools, majority of people, or individuals believe. The government should make NO comment on religious matters - that is what secular means.
The fact the majority of the population has a particular view does not matter. This is not a democracy.
BTW - I am the video author :)
masses of taxpayers funds went to supporting amateur employment agency's like the salvation army and mission Australia
Costello's baptists made our rules and this is just a residue
Its also a way of employing church members
If implemented it will fail as Aus parents have successfully kept religion out of state schools
but it will give the church an income for the duration
Promoting one religion doesn't offends other religions?
The point of school is to learn science, a bastion, what if this shit will be pushed in the schools too?
And that's a lot of money anyway, isn't there a better place for it?
Nah, these are really just rhetorical questions, what I really wanted to ask is where are we going?
Dark ages coming back?
Seriously, with all those crazy Christians out there, it's not hard to imagine.
(Remember the Jesus Camp.)
Politicians are elected to represent the people and uphold the rule of law. Is it too much to expect they adhere to the Constitution?
The government should not be violating our constitution to use our tax dollars to discriminate against non-Christians in public schools.